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Android 18 VS Meta Cooler; Fight
Topic Started: Jun 20 2011, 02:44 AM (1,544 Views)
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He keeps on getting powerful and in the end owning SSJ Vegeta just like Android 18 did. He does get more powerful when broken right? Maybe if it happens many times he comes at 18's powerlevel?

Would 18 win or Cooler?
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initial meta cooler wins. in movie 6 piccolo is fused with kami, but base goku is stronger than him. that puts metacooler possibly as high as perfect cell.
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Jun 20 2011, 05:54 AM
initial meta cooler wins. in movie 6 piccolo is fused with kami, but base goku is stronger than him. that puts metacooler possibly as high as perfect cell.
That and he could have a million copies of himself thanks to the Big Gete Star.
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Jun 20 2011, 05:54 AM
initial meta cooler wins. in movie 6 piccolo is fused with kami, but base goku is stronger than him. that puts metacooler possibly as high as perfect cell.
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Perfect Cell? I think that is a bit to high. Especially if its Full Power PC.
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Well , wasn't the Meta Cooler movie during the android saga or somenthing? That would still make Cooler's powerlevel more than 200 millions or even more ?
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

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Jun 20 2011, 02:42 PM
Well , wasn't the Meta Cooler movie during the android saga or somenthing? That would still make Cooler's powerlevel more than 200 millions or even more ?
Well, he could be above Semi-Perfect Cell perhaps or even higher. I'm not sure myself. Depends how strong you have Goku in the movie.
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it's like this. base movie 6 goku > movie 6 kamiccolo.

we'll run through the canon powerscale here

#17 100
kamiccolo 100
imperfect cell 130
initial semiperfect cell 230
fp semicell 299
assj vegeta 388.7
initial perfect cell 505.31
ussj trunks 656.9
50% mssj goku 854
mssj goku 1,708
mssj gohan 2,220
perfect cell 2,886.5

yep, ssj goku in movie 6 is stronger than the minimum value for full power perfect cell. i guess you forgot that movies were haxed?
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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I made this topic some months ago i think, this goes in many ways according where you place this movie, if pre or post Android Saga. I'll show many options, since there is no official placement of this movie, and all the hypothesis have certain incongruences (many of them very rough).

Pre-Android Saga (between the 3 years prior to the Androids, at the end):

Meta-Cooler [alternate timeline from Trunks]: ~5.000.000 (initial and ascending)
[full power]: ~220.000.000
[repaired]: ~310.000.000

Meta-Cooler [main timeline]: ~10.000.000 (initial and ascending)
[full power]: ~280.000.000
[repaired]: ~370.000.000

Post-Android Saga [X1 alternate timeline, the Z Fighters defeated Androids 17 and 18, there is no Cell]

Meta-Cooler: ~15.000.000 (initial)
[full power]: ~550.000.000
[repaired]: ~640.000.000

[main timeline, between episodes 172 "The New Guardian" and 173 "The Games Begin", placed in the 10 days prior to the battle with Cell]

Meta-Cooler: ~500.000.000 (initial)
[full power]: ~9.000.000.000
[repaired]: ~12.000.000.000


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well, the saiyan's haven't been in the rosat, because gohan doesn't have ssj, but piccolo is fused with kami. it can't be pre android saga, because piccolo is fused, but it can't be android saga, because the saiyan's are more powerful than piccolo, even in base. so, it has to be 2-3 years after the android saga, because the rosat wasn't used. it would appear that piccolo defeated cell and the cyborgs in this timeline, and then the saiyans continued training and surpassed him again.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Jun 20 2011, 04:39 PM
it's like this. base movie 6 goku > movie 6 kamiccolo.

we'll run through the canon powerscale here

#17 100
kamiccolo 100
imperfect cell 130
initial semiperfect cell 230
fp semicell 299
assj vegeta 388.7
initial perfect cell 505.31
ussj trunks 656.9
50% mssj goku 854
mssj goku 1,708
mssj gohan 2,220
perfect cell 2,886.5

yep, ssj goku in movie 6 is stronger than the minimum value for full power perfect cell. i guess you forgot that movies were haxed?
Wouldn't Semi-Perfect Cell be at 260 at full power instead of 299? That's what Imperfect Cell and #17 adding their powers together comes out to be, and I don't think it was anything more than addition until Cell absorbed #18.

Either way, the movie did come out two months after the chapter in which Piccolo fused with Kami came out in Weekly Jump, although the entire volume didn't come out until 8 days after the movie.
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no, initial semicell was 17 + imperfect cell (100 + 130 = 230), i thought. still it could be the other way, as well.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Oh, where are my reading skills going these days? Blah.
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Meta coola Godstomps #18 since Goku's punches and kamehameha were useless they did absolutely nothing to meta coola and that's a huge gap so my numbers are :

Goku base : 6,500,000
Goku kk 20 : 130,000,000
Goku ssj : 325,000,000

Vegeta base : 7,000,000
Vegeta ssj : 350,000,000

Meta coola : 320,000,000
Meta coola Repaired : 480,000,000 ( a 50% increase at least)
Real coola : 45,000

Gohan : 3,000,000
Kuririn : 600,000
Piccolo : 162,000,000
yajirobe : 970

Android 18 : 400,000,000
Android 17 : 420,000,000
Kamicolo : 420,000,000
Android 16 : 475,000,000
cell first form : 477,000,000

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#18 could've tanked Vegeta's punches if she felt like doing so, but instead chose to toy with him.
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